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Eerie, Indiana rewatch 2015: episode seventeen, Loyal Order of Corn [Nov. 21st, 2015|04:00 pm]
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Here's another of my all-time favourites! Hand your hard earned wages over to Orville Redenbacher, and let's watch the Loyal Order of Corn!
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[User Picture]From: froodle
2015-11-21 10:17 pm (UTC)
During the scene where Ned leaves and the Tellers, Simon and Dash wave goodbye, Edgar is throwing up the peace sign. I never noticed that before.

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[User Picture]From: deifire
2015-11-29 11:33 pm (UTC)
Huh. In all the times I've seen this, I've never noticed it, either, but he totally does!

And, once again, I'm way behind on the rewatch.
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[User Picture]From: froodle
2015-11-30 08:46 am (UTC)
Maybe he was trying to show ned how many weeks banishment from Eerie he has?
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[User Picture]From: slinkhard
2015-11-28 12:40 pm (UTC)
Sorry this is late, I had a long comment that google chrome ate >:(

I like this episode, but it retroactively annoys me that we never got any resolution.

LOL at Mars' reference to battling alone with 'a little help from Simon' - rude, Teller!

And I see the 'It looks like a TV, but no one makes them this big!' has dated ;)

Ned is terrifying! He reminds me of the bartender from the Shining, I keep waiting for him to say 'You've always been here, Mr. Teller.'
I love that he's basically gamed this entire town, but hasn't worked out that posing for photos stretching back 80 years, or hiring teenage bartenders isn't regular human behaviour. He's an explorer, not a thinker!
Lucky for him, there's enough other weirdoes in Eerie that he doesn't stick out. (And he has the mindcontrol crystals and hats - is that why Simon sounds so odd when he enters the TV portal?)

Although his ignoring Dash completely when offering to take Mars exploring other planets is pretty harsh (is this confirmation that Dash isn't human? Since he emphasises 'Of all the humans I've met...' to Mars.)

I also love Simon - he's really in deep with Eerie codes and norms, despite his friendship with Mars. (I wonder if that's why Mars is particularly dismissive of him as an equal in his beginning VO.)
Right down to 'Oh NO, maybe they're working for the Japanese!' like that's the worst possibility.
It's also him that defuses Mars and Dash going at it by suggesting a bribe - sly!Simon.
When Dash mentions what finding out his identity could bring, it's Simon who suggests 'You could find out who you family are!'
And what a little trouper - 'If I'd had my coat, it would have been fun!'

I also love that Edgar, Marilyn and Radford have a large role (Marilyn seems pretty familiar with Radford, interestingly, I wonder if he makes it a point to keep in with the Tellers.) I love her usurping the role of Seedling Teller, and calling out the Eerie patriarchy.

Dash/Mars wise, this is the first episode to break the pattern of Dash saving Mars (against his instincts!), and the first where they're ready to clash physically (this starts the new pattern continued in Zombies in PJs of Dash slapping Mars, lol); but also interestingly, the first in which Mars is willing to call Dash a friend at the end of it. They're very much framed as a pair in this episode, even huddling together when Ned talks about portals (wish I had caps); and while there's less camaraderie than previous episodes, there's some nice shots - Dash offering Mars his hand up, Mars looking over Dash's shoulder as he speaks (which is mirrored in Zombies in PJs with Dash behind Mars.)
Dash is also clearly desperate to share what he's discovered, despite his protestations - he brings up 'oh, how should I know?' apropros of nothing when Mars wonders about Ned.

I wonder if there have been any offscreen encounters - Mars mentions always being broke since they met, but the bribe he gives is the first one we've seen.

The crystal bit is cute, too - it's phallic shaped (not to mention the whole 'when it's fit in this space, it lights up!') and it can attract a boyfriend (lucky Mars...;) but when Dash jokes about spying on Syndi, Mars shuts that down with a 'be serious'. Oh, and VOs about 'penetrating the inner sanctum'.
Not to mention the resolution of their fates - Mars looks in Dash's direction while stating he has 'too much to do here', and Ned tells Dash 'What you seek is right here in Eerie.' (Solid matchmaking, Ned.)

As for Dash, again he seems to be invested in winning some kind of pseudo-parental approval from inappropriate targets - while he's withholding information and lying to Ned, he also seems like he's genuinely trying to impress him and work hard. I wonder if his pursuing actual jobs (continued in Zombies) is supposed to be trying to establish a space for himself within Eerie as well as greed.

His embarrassment at Mars' dramatic speech is hilarious, and apparently within all the popculture trivia he inexplicably knows, there's also enough history to reference Cortez as well as smirk at Ned's fairly arcane references.
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[User Picture]From: froodle
2015-11-29 01:01 pm (UTC)
Ned is terrifying! He reminds me of the bartender from the Shining, I keep waiting for him to say 'You've always been here, Mr. Teller.'

oh my god reading that gave me actual chills!
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[User Picture]From: deifire
2015-11-29 11:50 pm (UTC)
Me, too!
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[User Picture]From: froodle
2015-11-30 08:49 am (UTC)
And now im really enamoured of the idea of eerie as a place that draws in the people it wants for its own purposes and doesnt allow them to leave...
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[User Picture]From: deifire
2015-11-29 11:49 pm (UTC)
LOL at Mars' reference to battling alone with 'a little help from Simon' - rude, Teller!

Seriously! Poor Simon gets no respect.

Although his ignoring Dash completely when offering to take Mars exploring other planets is pretty harsh (is this confirmation that Dash isn't human? Since he emphasises 'Of all the humans I've met...' to Mars.)

This scene just always made me hurt for Dash. Not only does Ned not offer to take him, but he's offering to take away one of his only two friends...well, semi-friends...in the whole world. Ouch.

And, yeah, I'd say pretty much confirmation that Dash, whatever he is, is not human.

Right down to 'Oh NO, maybe they're working for the Japanese!' like that's the worst possibility.

I wonder if specifically the Yoshizowa Consortium would be the worst thing...

But, yeah, Simon is awesome in this, and gets no credit.


Dash/Mars wise, this is the first episode to break the pattern of Dash saving Mars (against his instincts!), and the first where they're ready to clash physically (this starts the new pattern continued in Zombies in PJs of Dash slapping Mars, lol); but also interestingly, the first in which Mars is willing to call Dash a friend at the end of it.

I liked this development. And then Reality... happened and it all went to hell.

This is an interesting one storytelling-wise, because it always seemed to be Dash's story, that Marshall stumbled into, instead of the other way around.

His embarrassment at Mars' dramatic speech is hilarious, and apparently within all the popculture trivia he inexplicably knows, there's also enough history to reference Cortez as well as smirk at Ned's fairly arcane references.

I wonder if his "I just knew that this stuff was in here [the cabinet]…like I’d seen it before" fits in here. These things that he knows for no apparent reason versus the awful memory gaps about most things important.

Poor Dash at the end, staring out into the screen.

Things we never got to learn: Did the Loyal Order continue? And is Dash now in charge of things over there? Secret mind control hats and everything?
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[User Picture]From: froodle
2015-11-30 08:57 am (UTC)

I wonder if specifically the Yoshizowa Consortium would be the worst thing...


I love the ida that they were being set ugh to be a later antagonist on the show.and simultaneously am annoyed by it, because now ill never know
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[User Picture]From: froodle
2015-11-30 09:04 am (UTC)
His embarrassment at Mars' dramatic speech is hilarious, and apparently within all the popculture trivia he inexplicably knows, there's also enough history to reference Cortez as well as smirk at Ned's fairly arcane references.

I wonder if his "I just knew that this stuff was in here [the cabinet]…like I’d seen it before" fits in here. These things that he knows for no apparent reason versus the awful memory gaps about most things important.


Race memory, maybe? Like if hes neds.replacement maybe hes set up with enough knowledge to interact with the workd, but no actual personal memories of him as an indovidual because theyre not relevent to whatever the hell nex was tryi.g to do here. Given dashs snarky cortez reference, i doubt the show was setting nex anx his pekple up to be as benign as he pretended
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[User Picture]From: froodle
2015-11-30 08:51 am (UTC)
Oh, and VOs about 'penetrating the inner sanctum'.

I am so glqd im not the only one who smirks every time i hear that line!
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[User Picture]From: froodle
2015-11-30 08:59 am (UTC)
Dash is also clearly desperate to share what he's discovered, despite his protestations - he brings up 'oh, how should I know?' apropros of nothing when Mars wonders about Ned.

This. And mars is like, just remember, were the only ther peolle who believe eerie is weird, like, him n simon are literally all he has in the world
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[User Picture]From: froodle
2015-11-30 09:02 am (UTC)
Although his ignoring Dash completely when offering to take Mars exploring other planets is pretty harsh (is this confirmation that Dash isn't human? Since he emphasises 'Of all the humans I've met...' to Mars.)

Ive always taken it that way - and the "are you my dad?" / "if only it were as simple as that", if he was just a regular human, wouldnt ned have just said no?
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